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Too many.... by Jiyuria Too many.... by Jiyuria
I tried to make a stamp. :heart:

I see way too many writers making a character that's pretty much a sue to push the story along instead of depth....

What happenned to good old character development?

The thing that bothers me is how much they are embraced....it makes me a bit sad. How come good stories are pushed to the back over these people....why?

Edit: ( Ironically I typed out "righter" instead of "writer" at first....I've decided it fit....they try to use the characters to make the story "right". But they fail, so this is now the word I use for people who do use character development.)
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ellymango Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Katara and Tai Li from The Last Airbender. Would they be sues? All the boys fall over them, and they whine about their pasts a lot.
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Jiyuria Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012   General Artist
Not necessarily. That doesn't define a sue.

The lack of serious faults does and each of them actually does have faults. Tai Li is a bit distant and too hyper and it is played to a fault a long with other things.

Katara can be controlling, easily upset, and can hold quite the grudge.

All of these things are played as faults.

Plus almost everybody in the main group had at least a few people fall for them. (Aang included.)

A Mary Sue is more a Mary Sue if they have no faults and stick out as such even in their worlds story line.
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ellymango Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Ah. I'm a bit new on the definition of a sue, so I didn't know that much detail. Thank you for correcting me.
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Jiyuria Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012   General Artist
It's fine the term is sort of getting a bit changed around by people lately. It's hard to know the actual definition.

For instance a sue is someone who's too perfect for the world they're in etc.

For instance very few faults (that are addressed as faults).

A sue isn't someone who makes sense in their world but may not in ours either. A sue is a sue if they're too perfect for the world they're in's rules and what is stated the norm there.
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ellymango Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Right. I understand it better now. Thanks :)
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Jiyuria Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012   General Artist
Happy to help.
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WaterdragonTonx94 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Student Digital Artist
General Iroh the second from Legend of Korra.

He is an intresting character but he has some major sue traits.
For example he learned to ride an aircraft in one day and pawnd equalist pilot like it was nothing .
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Jiyuria Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012   General Artist
I don't know I didn't mind him much.

But that was certainly pushing it. If he had more screen time I might agree.

He seemed to lack many faults but he didn't have enough screen time to really establish them either.
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WaterdragonTonx94 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I dont mind him also( i actualy think he is quite cool)

But he needs more screen time to develop his character
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Jiyuria Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012   General Artist
This much is true. I'm hesitant to call him a sue though as he didn't quite push the line yet.
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